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Inde · Jul 11, 2008, 01:59 PM // 13:59

This is blatant misinformation. I'm assuming you are trying to tell people that we had a keylogger on Guru and this is how people got hacked. Not only is this absolutely false, but no one who has been hacked has been infected from this site. We have gone through our servers, our ad servers and more. You are wrong, if you've been infected with a virus such as this it's from your own internet surfing, giving out your passwords, etc. and not this site.

I won't even address the fact that you gave no useful information in your post for anyone.

BladeWind · Jul 11, 2008, 02:01 PM // 14:01

Three cheers for inde!

NoXiFy · Jul 11, 2008, 02:04 PM // 14:04

Stop downloading you know what. We all know that Gwen 'gets around', but don't google her stuff and download it >.<

graverobber2 · Jul 11, 2008, 02:06 PM // 14:06

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Originally Posted by Fried Tech

I smell a hoax

*sniff, sniff* I smell it too

Ignatius Tremere · Jul 11, 2008, 02:09 PM // 14:09

Stay off the gold buying sites and your fine. viruses don't magically happen, you have to think of the source of all viruses. Hoax or not, stay away from shady sites and you don't get viruses. Another item to watch out for is pictures that may be corrupted, don't click on any pictures and especially stay away from pictures that link to obscure picture hosting sites. Corupted .jpg, .gif, and .tif are nasty little things that you don't need to interact with, as soon as you can see it your infected. Although it takes a skilled coder to be able to create one without a noticable size difference they do exist. Most sites won't display them properly but small image hosting sites will display them just fine and quite happily, usually they embed their own cookie type virus, tracker into the site as well. Why people get so worked up about viruses is beyond me, i do this for a living, and what i have learnt in the last 7 years is that 99% of viruses are I D 10 T errors. The most common way of getting someone else infected is using Social Engineering. 1 other word of advice. If it sounds too good to be true, IT IS!!!

Personally i don't run any AV software, i just do a scan once a week and i haven't had a virus in YEARS. So any tard that is getting infected on a daily basis, IT YOUR FAULT... yup i said it, but its true.

If you have a virus and can't figure out how to get rid of it, and your AV program won't clean it send me a pm and i'll give you some tips.

Fril Estelin · Jul 11, 2008, 02:56 PM // 14:56

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Originally Posted by Ignatius Tremere

Corupted .jpg, .gif, and .tif are nasty little things that you don't need to interact with, as soon as you can see it your infected.

No, the correct sequence is:
1) you click the picture;
2) the browser goes awry;
3) the vulnerability is used by a particular program for direct exploitation.

Step 3 can be stopped by the use of up-to-date antiviruses, use Firefox and not IE, use Firefox add-ons such as NoScript.

You only get infected when your security (see this guide) is not good enough or you're one of the few unfortunate victim of a 0-day exploit.

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Although it takes a skilled coder to be able to create one without a noticable size difference they do exist.

Most modern browser won't accept broken pictures, though what really happens in fact is that there's a buffer overflow in a picture decoding module. This is constantly fixed and now rarely happens. As zwei2stein explained above, it's more sensible with Flash.

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but small image hosting sites will display them just fine

Remember: the website hosts the image, but only your broswer will display it. The browser is at fault here, not the hosting site, however small it is.

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Why people get so worked up about viruses is beyond me, i do this for a living, and what i have learnt in the last 7 years is that 99% of viruses are I D 10 T errors. The most common way of getting someone else infected is using Social Engineering. 1 other word of advice. If it sounds too good to be true, IT IS!!!

This amazes me from a security professional. Social engineering gets your logins, passwords, hidden urls, etc. You've heard of secure software coding? Know the OWASP Top 10? Now try to tell me what users can do about that... (I mean by not turning into a geek!)

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Personally i don't run any AV software, i just do a scan once a week and i haven't had a virus in YEARS. So any tard that is getting infected on a daily basis, IT YOUR FAULT... yup i said it, but its true.

Once more, you're just trolling or you're a very unprofessional security person. The trolling comment is "people are tard".

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If you have a virus and can't figure out how to get rid of it, and your AV program won't clean it send me a pm and i'll give you some tips.

Only contact people you trust, and I wouldn't trust you. May be you're just using social engineering to make people believe you're brilliant and then infect their computer? I don't know for sure but ...

lord of all tyria · Jul 11, 2008, 03:00 PM // 15:00

Thread delivers.

bcelmo · Jul 11, 2008, 03:01 PM // 15:01

dudes basic crap ... if it happens that you have a keylogger or your computer and you av (in case you have any, i don`t use them) does not pick it up, than the easiest way to protect you from gettin yer gw account hacked is by letting the game remember your username.. trust me on this one. Because all that keyloggers do is record your keystrokes and mouse clicks. There are some that acutally do screenshots on predetermined intervals but most ppl will not use that option because loggers send to an email which eventually will be crowded with 100`s upon 100`s of emails per day. Only opening each one will take 3-4hours of someone`s day. By not actually typing your username when u login will make the guy reading the log with only the pass and he will need to figure out the email address that is used with GW. If it happens that u use the same email as your usual one .. than you are pretty much screwed cause he will find it in logs (if he has enough patience), but if it`s different u`ll let a hacka stare at yer useless pass

mistokibbles · Jul 11, 2008, 03:30 PM // 15:30

Even if this was real, just because it has guru in it doesn't mean it's from guildwarsguru.

Painbringer · Jul 11, 2008, 03:31 PM // 15:31

Be safe and don’t be a fool

1. Run a firewall Always
2. Run an antivirus an update and scan as much as possible
3. Run a free or purchased Malware scanner Scan periodically
4. Phishing protection turn it on
5. Clean your system periodically Example; CCleaner
6. Do not blindly click ever… wait for pages to load.
7. When pulling up a download page (antivirus or update etc) be careful on what you click sometimes ad banners look identical to what you are downloading
8. Let windows update itself (many security flaws can be fixed this way)
9. Update your Java (there is a new one that was just released)
10. If infected write down the information. Read up on what the little buggers can do. This is a more precautionary step. If you find a virus knowing what the name of it is can help support staff. Most scanners keep logs but if the virus shuts you out are you going to remember it?

Snow Bunny · Jul 11, 2008, 04:41 PM // 16:41

Guru doesn't have a keylogger, but you do because you've been going god-knows-where on the internet.

Not to mention that you're throwing your own mistakes onto Guru.

What a terrible way to conduct yourself.

/close

Kanyatta · Jul 11, 2008, 04:45 PM // 16:45

Seeing as the OP has completely abandoned this thread, I assume we have fed this troll long enough.

I motion to close.

ShadowsRequiem · Jul 11, 2008, 04:47 PM // 16:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inde

This is blatant misinformation. I'm assuming you are trying to tell people that we had a keylogger on Guru and this is how people got hacked. Not only is this absolutely false, but no one who has been hacked has been infected from this site. We have gone through our servers, our ad servers and more. You are wrong, if you've been infected with a virus such as this it's from your own internet surfing, giving out your passwords, etc. and not this site.

I won't even address the fact that you gave no useful information in your post for anyone.

Inde to the rescue!

<3

Avai · Jul 11, 2008, 04:57 PM // 16:57

Maybe the OP was infected as well as his computer. This virus could be more dangerous than we think. The OP could have simply been trying to warn us but now he's in a hospital bed somewhere with no access to guru.

Or maybe he was just seeing if this thread would make it to a second page.

BenjZee · Jul 11, 2008, 05:51 PM // 17:51

wtf like theres a keylogger going around
anyway only an idiot would use the same guru /main gw username etc + password

FeroxC · Jul 11, 2008, 06:52 PM // 18:52

1) Nobody is going to name a keylogger GuruKeylogger.
2) If its on your PC it will already be running and you wont be able to delete it.
3) Files don't automatically download and execute unless your systems seriously out of date.
4) A firewall should block a keylogger detectable or not

Damian979 · Jul 11, 2008, 10:16 PM // 22:16

keylogger.... maybe not but this site is going to give my pop up blocker a nervous break down one day.

Rocky Raccoon · Jul 11, 2008, 10:46 PM // 22:46

As a regular poster on this forum, I have no worries that any keylogger is coming from this site. If you Google the keylogger you mention the only 2 results are from posts you have made.

therangereminem · Jul 11, 2008, 10:51 PM // 22:51

ok this file is what i sayit is i had guildys with it on there computer after then did a serach for it after getting there guildwars account hacked.

alli was tryign to do is help other poeple out and give a heads up, my whole allince is ticked off at this we dont know where it came from all i know is we did a man search there the poeples computers that got hacked and looked for certain things and that was what came up, guru can deny what it wants i know and my allince knows what it was and what it did

Inde · Jul 11, 2008, 10:53 PM // 22:53

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Originally Posted by therangereminem

ok so in the last week 3 of my allince memebrs have gotten hacked we area small allaince we haev known each other for 3 years + now,

i was on vent tonight about 1 hour ago and my friend got hacked i just did elonia reach with him and boom he went off line.

and he tried to reconnect , but got error message saying there is alreadya instance of guildwars running, right when he said that we said change your pw and keep tryign to log in, but it still gave himthe same message. mean while in allince chat we got the guy to say a couple of things..

wow 3 guy frm this allince this week newbs you must all do the same things.

i had to log into myfriends account for him with new pw to kick the guy off the account. but it was too late all mo ney and thing where gone happened in 2 min , my friend changed pw again

sence this has happened to my allince alot we are having a talk about using guru any more or signing up through anything for guildwars.

you say it only happens to rich poeple is bull 2 of the 3 poeple didnt even have fow armor or over 15k of anything on them no good rare skins or anything.

things we think have to do with it the tourney house within hours of signing up 72 or less there accounts hacked 1 person doesnt ever use guru, we are all on each others messangers, out of everyone that got hacked none use the -pw -account name in the target line

so either a its guildwars main site or b wiki or c through hotmail we are giving it to each other,

im doing more research on this

anet can and should be tracing ip that have this happen not only the ips hacking but who they are trading with they have to get it off somehow

You stated in your post that 1 person from your alliance that was hacked "doesn't ever use guru". You then stated you "had to log onto your friends account to kick the hacker off"... right there you have told us some of your problem.

It wasn't from guru
You are sharing passwords and logging onto each other's Guild Wars accounts